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The \u2018Bluesky Map<\/a> App’, which was officially launched today by the Institute of Public and Environmental Affairs (IPE)<\/a>, enables the public to check up on air and water quality, local sources of pollution, and scrutinise emissions from 9,000 polluting companies.<\/p>\n

It is a major advance on a previous version of the app, which uses a map<\/a> developed almost a decade ago.<\/p>\n

IPE’s head and environmental campaigner Ma Jun last month was awarded the prestigious 2015 Skoll Foundation award for \u2018lifting the veil on pollution\u2019 in China.  <\/p>\n

In an interview below with chinadialogue<\/em>, Ma explains some of the new innovations in the latest versions of the app and the potential impacts. <\/p>\n

Ma says it is not easy in China for the public to acquire pollution information themselves, a motivation for the IPE to use internet technologies to create pollution maps.<\/div>\n
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These allowing the public to see what\u2019s happening with a simple tap \u2013 and could encourage both businesses and government to step up their efforts in the \u201cwar on pollution”<\/a>. <\/div>\n
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Ma says his strategy has opened up a new way for the public to participate in environmental protection, and also provides a model for monitoring of pollution in other countries where the burning of coal and growing vehicle use has contributed to increasingly toxic air quality.<\/div>\n
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Chinadialogue (CD): You\u2019ve recently been awarded the Skoll Award for Social Entrepreneurship. Were you the first globally to use the internet, and in particular a mobile app, to allow real-time monitoring of pollution data? Why was this innovation first deployed in China?<\/b><\/div>\n
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Ma Jun (MJ): At the award ceremony hundreds of social entrepreneurs from around the world were amazed by our app. Real-time data on sources of pollution isn\u2019t available in much of the West. China is the first country to do this on this type of scale.<\/div>\n
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However the US and the EU have been fairly open with some information to improve environmental management since the late 1980s.<\/p>\n

China is seeing even greater calls for openness than those nations \u2013 as in Europe and North America the judicial system can be used to ensure good environmental management.<\/div>\n
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In China that (judicial) route is not yet open, and so public participation \u2013 which requires openness of information \u2013 is more important.<\/div>\n
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There are several reasons why apps providing real-time information on sources of pollution first appeared in China.<\/div>\n
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The country suffers from heavy pollution, and so the public have a more urgent need for such data and are keener to see something done.<\/div>\n
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Meanwhile, a rapid increase in internet use has enabled a high-tech approach; and China has active environmental NGOs promoting greater openness of pollution data.<\/div>\n
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CD: Why did you rename your existing pollution map the \u201cBluesky Map\u201d? What\u2019s new in the latest version, and what will you be adding in future updates?<\/b><\/div>\n
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MJ: When we launched the pollution map in 2006 we hoped to show everyone the consequences of pollution. Now those consequences are common knowledge and it\u2019s time to take things to a new stage: not just being aware of the problem, but working to fix it. Nothing makes people want to participate in protecting the environment more than the idea of a blue sky, as many cities have already lost theirs. We hope the new name will bring people to try and get that blue sky back.<\/div>\n
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Version 2.0 adds water quality maps; real-time air quality data for 380 cities, up from a previous 190; and pollution data from 9,000 companies, up from 4,000 in the earlier version. We\u2019ve also added weather forecasts and advice on whether or not you should wear a mask, open windows, or undertake outdoor activities. Visualisations of soil pollution data are to come in the future.<\/div>\n
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CD: Developing countries also face the same pollution issues China does \u2013 could an app be used elsewhere? And globally there is a threat of pollution being transferred between countries \u2013 could this approach be used to monitor pollution globally? <\/b><\/div>\n
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MJ: Many social entrepreneurs from developing nations have asked if they could do the same thing at home as their own nations are facing the same challenges. Air pollution is very bad in India, for example.<\/div>\n
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Some also worried that polluting companies no longer welcome in China would move to their countries, creating a new cycle of transfer of pollution. I think that methods such as ours could create a global environmental monitoring network, ensuring these firms remain in public view wherever they end up, allowing for oversight of global manufacturing and procurement, and preventing the companies from lowering their environmental standards.<\/div>\n
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CD: Do you want to work with developing countries on developing their own versions of your app?<\/b><\/p>\n

MJ: We\u2019re happy to share our experiences. Of course, circumstances are different in every nation. In China the information released is limited, but the government does a lot of monitoring and the authorities have a solid dataset \u2013 and we encourage the release of that data.<\/div>\n
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However, in some countries that monitoring is weak. They need to take account of their own circumstances, perhaps relying on new technology to have the public monitor pollution and make that public, creating a social monitoring network. And also you need to think about how to encourage companies to monitor their own pollution and publish that data.<\/div>\n
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This kind of job requires data, and that data takes time and effort to collect. We\u2019ve been doing it for ten years, and it\u2019s very dull work.<\/div>\n
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CD: In China, polluting companies are often protected by local government. How does IPE operate in such circumstances? <\/b><\/div>\n
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MJ: There are several aspects we take particular care with: Firstly, we stick to our goals and our mission \u2013 we\u2019re an environmental group, so we stick to the mission of protecting the environment, rather than getting distracted by other issues.<\/div>\n
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Secondly, while maintaining our principles, we are also aware of the national circumstances and we build trust with interested parties, to bridge those gaps in trust.<\/div>\n
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Thirdly, we aim to be professional and scientific. We\u2019re founded on data, on science, and that\u2019s extremely important, as in China the impact of data can still be sensitive and NGOs are still quite new. When our work does create pressure for us, when companies with bad pollution records come to see us, the fact that our data comes from government provides support.<\/div>\n
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Fourthly, we don\u2019t just try to have a major impact. We try to improve processes, and communicate effectively so nobody gets any surprises, and try to encourage companies to move in the right direction \u2013 the companies aren\u2019t our enemy, pollution is.<\/div>\n
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CD: You\u2019ve been compared to Forrest Gump<\/a> for your dedication during ten years collecting and publishing pollution data. Do you object?<\/b><\/p>\n

MJ: Not at all, and actually I also like running! When I was at middle school every afternoon they\u2019d lock the classrooms and dormitories, and you had to go and run, so it became a habit. I don\u2019t have so much time or energy for it now, but I still run every day. And our work is like running \u2013 but not a sprint, a marathon, needing long commitment and effort.<\/div>\n

The \u2018Bluesky Map\u2019 app is available for download from <\/em>Google Play<\/em><\/a> and <\/em>iTunes<\/em><\/a> (available in Chinese only).<\/em><\/p>\n

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